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By: Cormac Duncan [2001-12-22]

People never listen to a word I say!

Loganbeeren, fuckwit!

When I was younger, my parents had a loganberry bush in their back garden. When I was less young I emigrated to Germany for a bit.

These facts are not entirely unrelated.

One evening I was in a pub on the Holtenauerstrasse with a couple of mates, chatting desultorily of this and that, when the topic (steered by girls, needless to say) veered towards food.

"We all like waffles with morellen," (kind of cherry) they claimed. "Oh, no," said the blokes, "Sauerkirschen" (other kind of cherry) "are much better!" At this point, having said little enough all night, I felt it was time to assert myself; "I like ice cream with loganberries!" I cried.

"Loganberries? What are they?"

So, explain explain; Everyone looks excited at the prospect. This'll be something to tell the grandkids. The murmur goes around - "We're going to learn the magics of some arcane Irish food - probably roast leprechaun or similar, or maybe it's -"

"Shut Up Bloody Krauts, and I'll tell you!"

"Logan berries are a bit like raspberries, you know, all bobbly..." "Oh they sound like raspberries", interjects one character, who seems a bit hard of thinking. The others all nod sagely. Raspberries.

"No! Like raspberries, i.e., not them but merely similar. They are, to continue, bobbly like raspberries but they're longer and darker. Also -"

"Oh, he means blackberries", they cheerfully shout. "They're bobbly and purple if you mix them with whitewash and -"

"I know what a blackberry is. We have them at home too. Not blackberries. As I was saying, they're also sourer than raspberries (or indeed blackberries)."

So it carries on in this vein for a bit, with peoples guesses getting steadily odder. "Elderberries?" "Rhubarb! What? He said it was sour and purple." This witticism causes several people to choke on their beer. It foams out their nostrils in a most diverting manner.

Eventually, one of them remembers she's studying English. "Hang on, I have a dictionary here," she cries. They all try to look it up and can't find it. I look it up for them. Loganbeeren.

"Loorbeeren?"

"Loganbeeren, fuckwit! Look, here!" They all crowd around. It really does say Loganbeeren.

No one's ever heard of it. "We've never heard of them," they cry, "What are they, do tell us?"

Aargh! What have I just wasted half an hour doing? I quietly strangle the Germans and leave without paying.
Drachenfels [2001-12-22 18:42:41] Jacques Kitsch
I have a small beer mug that is for some special beer with berry syrup, although I mostly like beer straight and fairly cold. The mug has the Drachenfels castle on it and berries.
"Tyttebaer"
Uh... [2001-12-22 21:43:20] staniel
Titty bar?

There are lots of cranberry bogs and blueberry patches in the South Jersey area. In fact, it's interesting to anthropologically minded types that most of the Hispanic population here is Puerto Rican and Cuban, what with us being on the Eastern seaboard, but there's a community of Mexicans who came up here as migrant berry pickers and stayed on because of the promise of year-round work.
Hey [2001-12-22 23:24:07] Jonas
I thought I said this guy's entries had to be audio files? How can such a great accent be so underemployed? Cormac Duncan could write about his morning routine and I'd love it.
MP3 encoding apps
Blåbær [2001-12-23 00:00:02] Jacques Kitsch
I encountered some Hispanics from Santo Domingo in Jersey, I thought they were Borinqueños, but they said Dominicans. Santo Domingo reminds me of Hispañola and pirates. I have no damned idea what kind of berries pirates ate, but they had scurvy and beriberi.
http://fuv.hivolda.no/prosjekt/fuvmarv/blaabaer.htm
"Blåbær"
English Breakfast [2001-12-23 05:32:33] Jacques Kitsch
I, for one, would like to hear tales of the English Breakfast involving kippers and eggs, Marmite, Jam, scones, and a cup o' char. Also, anything about Jeeves. Or perhaps a bit on the proper selection and care of a brolly.
"Brolly"
berrying the hatchet [2001-12-23 16:01:52] alptraum
it might sound strange but i know exactly what you mean. i'm an american living in the BRD, and i had the same trouble trying to convey the concept of cranberries to people at thanksgiving. the closest we could get was that they are somewhat similar to preiselbeeren, except not. we also had a disagreement about purgatory that evening. because of the german word for it -- fegefeuer -- the germans at the thanksgiving party all thought, in predictably dualistic german fashion, that it was a part of hell.

however in the interests of fairness to the germans, i don't think most americans have the foggiest inkling of what a loganberry is. are you from britain? and i think you'd find americans just as ignorant of currants. or sweetmeats or sweetbreads (whatever they are, and whatever the difference between them is), or flammable puddings, or spotted dick. etc....
The Dunwitch Horror [2001-12-23 16:16:45] Jacques Kitsch
"The Loganbeeren Fuckwit" sounds like a sequel.
deutsch [2001-12-23 16:51:19] alptraum
i sometimes think that the very nature of the german language gives the people their pigheaded character. or vice versa. since any two words can be rammed together to make a new word, they think they've got everything figured out, everything delineated, defined, begrenzed. how wrong they are... the repulsive fact that the word for nipple is brustwarze, "breastwart", is just one example of thousands how the german language lacks a certain "i dont know what", as the french would say.
Huckleberry [2001-12-24 00:19:52] Jacques Kitsch
The auslander Mark Twain wrote of his struggles with "The Awful German Language"
loganberries as a part of the american experience [2001-12-24 20:58:09] David Glasser
They serve loganberry syrup in IHOP! How can a true American be unfamiliar with it?
not loganberry [2001-12-26 06:45:53] leah
lingonberry. it's a swedish crepe kinda deal. they also have all kinds of lingonberry jelly and soda and crap at Ikea.
i hate me [2002-09-30 05:01:18] JASON JENNINGS
i have a small penis its realy depressing i go to penglais skool, i like to look hard cause i have somthing to prove, im a twat and im also short!!! (see comment by duane crees) im friends wit robbie jhonsen (also short)
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